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In 2008, senior government analyst Clifford Todd had previously told the Kingston July 7th trial that the devices were ‘unique in the UK and possibly in the whole world’ because no-one had heard of this explosive being used before and he reiterated this at the Inquest.
Concerning the Tavistock Square blast, the Inquest was told:
Chemical analysis of the debris suggests that the main charge used did not consist of any previously seen compositions… In the absence of chemical traces of other high performance military explosives and based on the physical damage done to the bus, it is not unreasonable to reach the conclusion that the main explosive charge consisted of a novel, improvised material previously unseen by this laboratory. (Feb 2 am, 56:14-19)
by Kim Simpson, at the Government’s Forensic Explosives Laboratory at Sevenoaks. Thus, after extensive laboratory analysis and detective-work, a professional forensic analyst could not say what exploded – it was something unknown to her laboratory. But, she did claim to have detected a trace of ‘piperine’ in the bus (found in black pepper), and she conjectured: ”The main charge was most probably a novel mixture comprising concentrated hydrogen peroxide together with additional compounds, which may have included a piperine-containing ingredient.” (2 Feb am 59:6-9)
At Russell Square, ‘none was found, no traces of HMTD or TATP or, indeed, any other explosive was found’. (48: 21-23 Feb 1st pm) (55:12-14) ‘At Russell Square, no parts of an initiator were found and, as you said earlier, neither were any traces of HMTD’ – Hugo Keith.
At Edgware Road, ‘the standard test for organic explosives proved to be negative (51:21-22)… and in no case did we find any (52:10-11) trace of conventional high explosives’.
At Aldgate: Q: There were analyses carried out as to whether or not the piperine substance could be found at the scene, but were your conclusions inconclusive in that regard? A. That’s right, we tried to see if we could find that and, in the end, we weren’t successful, so we couldn’t draw any conclusion from that. (51:20-25)
Q: ‘Did you undertake investigation of what that white powder was?
A. We did, and that was HMTD, which is a particular — a very sensitive high explosive, it can be manufactured relatively easily from readily available materials. – Cliffod Todd (Feb 1st pm, 40: 8-12)
For several years after the event, the experts had averred that a volatile substance called TATP had blown up the trains and was therefore what the four young men had carried down south in their rucksacks. TATP (Tri-acetone tri-peroxide) is white. It was in the bath, newspapers reported6. Also, it had been left behind in the car park at Luton.
‘Preliminary analysis’ had found ‘traces of TATP’ both at the site in Leeds, according to the prestigious Jane’s Defence Weekly, on 22nd July, 20058 and at the sites of the explosions: that analysis linked together the London bombs with the Leeds plotters. Military experts around the world would have read this. On 26th July, ABC News released a sequence of images of what had, it claimed, been found in the Luton car-park, and they clearly showed a white substance9.
By the time of the 2008 Kingston trial, all that had vanished without a trace – just like TATP evaporating on a summer’s day.
If we go back to the ‘Official Report’ of 2006 on the London bombings, the Home Office’s official narrative, all it told us concerning the ingredients, one year after the event, was: ‘Forensic analysis of material taken from Alexandra Grove continues’ – i.e., it was not prepared to comment on what explosives might have been found there.
Three years later, Andy Hayman’s book ‘The Terrorist Hunters’ – impounded upon publication on a High Court order, on the grounds that it disclosed ‘too much’ – merely said that on July 12th a ‘thick bubbling yellow liquid’ was found in the bath at Alexandra Grove with an ‘unbearable rotting stench’ and no hint as to what it was.
At 18, Alexandra Grove in Leeds, pictures of the bath has been shown, at the Inquest, containing some sandy compound.
Clifford Todd stated on oath, concerning the explosives found, that he there found two types of brown sludge, one darker and not explosive, and ‘the lighter, sandy-coloured material, that was shown, in at least one specific case, to be a high explosive.’ (39:25 Feb 1, pm)
Once the 7/7 trial came along in the summer of 2008, all trace of the TATP story had gone.
We might at least expect The Observer to register some perturbation, after all on July the 17th it had reported that 22 lbs of TATP (tri-acetone tri-peroxide) had been found in the said bath at Alexander Grove6. Did that just fade away like a dream? It seems so. TATP is quite volatile, in the heat of the summer it would tend to evaporate, which was presumably the point of the ice cubes the Four were meant to have taken with them – so we would expect any TATP made to be stored in the fridge not left in a bath.
You don’t need a degree in chemistry to figure out that buying 17% peroxide from a ‘hydroponics’ shop will not enable you to concentrate it to an explosive level. 90% peroxide may be rocket fuel, but can you make it? Only a British journalist would believe that boiling ‘liquid oxygen growth promoter’ (ie 17% peroxide) in a saucepan will concentrate it up an explosive-blast level. Quite the contrary: and, one is more likely to concentrate the peroxide by freezing, where water will freeze out before the peroxide –but, that has never been a part of the Alexandra Grove story: pans and heaters were shown scattered around there, not fridges. But, even 50% peroxide is not explosive, it won’t go bang.
The bombers used respirators because the hydrogen peroxide gave off noxious fumes as it was boiled down, blistering paint work and killing plants outside one of the ground-floor flat’s windows,’ explained Dc Richard Reynolds, of the Metropolitan Police’s SO15 counter-terrorism command, to the Inquest
The main identification of explosive at the Inquest, was of the ‘detonator’ HTMD which kept being found on clothing that supposedly belonged to the Four, and on the floor of the Nissan Micra car, Tanweer’s wallet, etc.
Egyptian chemist Al-Nashar was renting the flat at 18, Alexandra Grove from a housing co-op. He had just completed his biochemistry PhD at Leeds, and flew out to Cairo on 4th July 2005 – with a return ticket, booked for August 12th.
On 8th January 2007 the world was first shown pictures of the inside of his flat – oddly enough they were from a replica of his flat, constructed in Brooklyn, New Jersey
A huge industrial fridge was present in the flat – or, so the New York Police Department explained, reported by The Times on August 4th, 2005 (7): ”An expensive fridge was found in the otherwise rundown flat in Dewsbury … they had commercial grade refrigerators to keep the materials cool,” said Michael Sheehan, the NYPD’s Deputy Commissioner of Counter Terrorism.” It would certainly be sensible to have such, if one were trying to brew up the liable-to-detonate substances such as TATP and HMTD. But, can you see one in the comprehensive map of the flat shown to the Inquest? Did these big ‘industrial fridges’ just fade away, along with the TATP?
The Independent, 12 July 2005: Christophe Chaboud, ‘On 12 July 2005, Superintendent Christophe Chaboud, chief of French anti-terrorism Coordination Unit who was in London assisting Scotland Yard with its investigation, confirmed to The Times that,‘The nature of the explosives appears to be military, which is very worrying….the material used were not homemade but sophisticated military explosives …’
Concerning the Tavistock Square blast, the Inquest was told:
Chemical analysis of the debris suggests that the main charge used did not consist of any previously seen compositions… In the absence of chemical traces of other high performance military explosives and based on the physical damage done to the bus, it is not unreasonable to reach the conclusion that the main explosive charge consisted of a novel, improvised material previously unseen by this laboratory. (Feb 2 am, 56:14-19)
by Kim Simpson, at the Government’s Forensic Explosives Laboratory at Sevenoaks. Thus, after extensive laboratory analysis and detective-work, a professional forensic analyst could not say what exploded – it was something unknown to her laboratory. But, she did claim to have detected a trace of ‘piperine’ in the bus (found in black pepper), and she conjectured: ”The main charge was most probably a novel mixture comprising concentrated hydrogen peroxide together with additional compounds, which may have included a piperine-containing ingredient.” (2 Feb am 59:6-9)
At Russell Square, ‘none was found, no traces of HMTD or TATP or, indeed, any other explosive was found’. (48: 21-23 Feb 1st pm) (55:12-14) ‘At Russell Square, no parts of an initiator were found and, as you said earlier, neither were any traces of HMTD’ – Hugo Keith.
At Edgware Road, ‘the standard test for organic explosives proved to be negative (51:21-22)… and in no case did we find any (52:10-11) trace of conventional high explosives’.
At Aldgate: Q: There were analyses carried out as to whether or not the piperine substance could be found at the scene, but were your conclusions inconclusive in that regard? A. That’s right, we tried to see if we could find that and, in the end, we weren’t successful, so we couldn’t draw any conclusion from that. (51:20-25)
Q: ‘Did you undertake investigation of what that white powder was?
A. We did, and that was HMTD, which is a particular — a very sensitive high explosive, it can be manufactured relatively easily from readily available materials. – Cliffod Todd (Feb 1st pm, 40: 8-12)
For several years after the event, the experts had averred that a volatile substance called TATP had blown up the trains and was therefore what the four young men had carried down south in their rucksacks. TATP (Tri-acetone tri-peroxide) is white. It was in the bath, newspapers reported6. Also, it had been left behind in the car park at Luton.
‘Preliminary analysis’ had found ‘traces of TATP’ both at the site in Leeds, according to the prestigious Jane’s Defence Weekly, on 22nd July, 20058 and at the sites of the explosions: that analysis linked together the London bombs with the Leeds plotters. Military experts around the world would have read this. On 26th July, ABC News released a sequence of images of what had, it claimed, been found in the Luton car-park, and they clearly showed a white substance9.
By the time of the 2008 Kingston trial, all that had vanished without a trace – just like TATP evaporating on a summer’s day.
If we go back to the ‘Official Report’ of 2006 on the London bombings, the Home Office’s official narrative, all it told us concerning the ingredients, one year after the event, was: ‘Forensic analysis of material taken from Alexandra Grove continues’ – i.e., it was not prepared to comment on what explosives might have been found there.
Three years later, Andy Hayman’s book ‘The Terrorist Hunters’ – impounded upon publication on a High Court order, on the grounds that it disclosed ‘too much’ – merely said that on July 12th a ‘thick bubbling yellow liquid’ was found in the bath at Alexandra Grove with an ‘unbearable rotting stench’ and no hint as to what it was.
At 18, Alexandra Grove in Leeds, pictures of the bath has been shown, at the Inquest, containing some sandy compound.
Clifford Todd stated on oath, concerning the explosives found, that he there found two types of brown sludge, one darker and not explosive, and ‘the lighter, sandy-coloured material, that was shown, in at least one specific case, to be a high explosive.’ (39:25 Feb 1, pm)
Once the 7/7 trial came along in the summer of 2008, all trace of the TATP story had gone.
We might at least expect The Observer to register some perturbation, after all on July the 17th it had reported that 22 lbs of TATP (tri-acetone tri-peroxide) had been found in the said bath at Alexander Grove6. Did that just fade away like a dream? It seems so. TATP is quite volatile, in the heat of the summer it would tend to evaporate, which was presumably the point of the ice cubes the Four were meant to have taken with them – so we would expect any TATP made to be stored in the fridge not left in a bath.
You don’t need a degree in chemistry to figure out that buying 17% peroxide from a ‘hydroponics’ shop will not enable you to concentrate it to an explosive level. 90% peroxide may be rocket fuel, but can you make it? Only a British journalist would believe that boiling ‘liquid oxygen growth promoter’ (ie 17% peroxide) in a saucepan will concentrate it up an explosive-blast level. Quite the contrary: and, one is more likely to concentrate the peroxide by freezing, where water will freeze out before the peroxide –but, that has never been a part of the Alexandra Grove story: pans and heaters were shown scattered around there, not fridges. But, even 50% peroxide is not explosive, it won’t go bang.
The bombers used respirators because the hydrogen peroxide gave off noxious fumes as it was boiled down, blistering paint work and killing plants outside one of the ground-floor flat’s windows,’ explained Dc Richard Reynolds, of the Metropolitan Police’s SO15 counter-terrorism command, to the Inquest
The main identification of explosive at the Inquest, was of the ‘detonator’ HTMD which kept being found on clothing that supposedly belonged to the Four, and on the floor of the Nissan Micra car, Tanweer’s wallet, etc.
Egyptian chemist Al-Nashar was renting the flat at 18, Alexandra Grove from a housing co-op. He had just completed his biochemistry PhD at Leeds, and flew out to Cairo on 4th July 2005 – with a return ticket, booked for August 12th.
On 8th January 2007 the world was first shown pictures of the inside of his flat – oddly enough they were from a replica of his flat, constructed in Brooklyn, New Jersey
A huge industrial fridge was present in the flat – or, so the New York Police Department explained, reported by The Times on August 4th, 2005 (7): ”An expensive fridge was found in the otherwise rundown flat in Dewsbury … they had commercial grade refrigerators to keep the materials cool,” said Michael Sheehan, the NYPD’s Deputy Commissioner of Counter Terrorism.” It would certainly be sensible to have such, if one were trying to brew up the liable-to-detonate substances such as TATP and HMTD. But, can you see one in the comprehensive map of the flat shown to the Inquest? Did these big ‘industrial fridges’ just fade away, along with the TATP?
The Independent, 12 July 2005: Christophe Chaboud, ‘On 12 July 2005, Superintendent Christophe Chaboud, chief of French anti-terrorism Coordination Unit who was in London assisting Scotland Yard with its investigation, confirmed to The Times that,‘The nature of the explosives appears to be military, which is very worrying….the material used were not homemade but sophisticated military explosives …’
