THE DIARY OF JACK THE RIPPER IS NOT A HOAX!!!

[Maysonfre]

With a ring on my finger and a knife in my hand
This May spreads Mayhem throughout this fair land

"It doesn't matter whether it's real or not. This document purporting to be the diary of the jealous brother of a famous composer and a man who claims to be Jack the Ripper confessing his crimes and recording his descent into madness with sophomoric attempts at verse interspersed within his account of his London atrocities is a top portrayal of a serial killer of prostitutes and serial killers in general. Profile-wise, it's 100 percent accurate even down to the heretofore unknown reality of advanced aged serial killer rookies."

[Maysonfre]

Bruce Robinson has him practicing Freemasonry and keeping Masonic company from at least 1869 until his death in 1889. He's even listed as an 18th Degree Freemason in 1888 the year of the Ripper Murders.

This doesn't fit the rule of peripheral and divested religious involvement which includes Secret Societies with Religious rituals. I'm thinking the rules are different regarding participation in such cult-like groups for people, especially Protestant people, who are musically inclined as the Maybricks must have been, Michael being a major composer.

[Maysonfre]

It's funny how you got all the conspiracy theorists who don't believe Oswald acted alone. They don't believe Kennedy was killed by a "lone gunman" and a relative "loser" at that. How could a guy like that kill a president by himself?

On the flip side you got the conspiracy debunkers who don't think that Jack the Ripper had any connection to royalty or the Freemasons. They don't think a "Peer of the Realm" or even a "Pillar of Society" would kill a prostitute. How could a queen's doctor, a Freemason, or any guy like that kill lowly prostitutes in a lowly neighborhood, much less in the fashion of Jack the Ripper.

The same debunkers probably have no problem saying that the President was killed by a lowly lone gunman. But the Kennedy conspiracy theorists would have no problem fingering a Freemason for the Ripper.

They're both very similar although the Ripper mainstream won't like the comparison. I don't know if the conspiracy theorists would mind.

[blackjack]

All unsolved cases, the guy is connected. That's why it go "unsolved". Black Dahlia. zodiac. Ripper. 

[Maysonfrei]

The hoax theorists can’t even agree if the Diary was written in 1980, 1920, or 1989.

The science says it’s not modern and the textual analysis show that the author had more knowledge of Victorian English usage than the modern authors doing the analysis.

Authors say the use of frequent to mean to attend once shows evidence of a modern hoaxer trying to sound posh. I’m fact “frequent” comes from the French meaning “ to haunt” so it does mean attend once like a ghost that appears many times but is always there and attends only once. So it’s a proper Victorian usage of which we have evidence feinither sources at the time.

[Maysonfry]

The hoax theorists can’t even agree if the Diary was written in 1980, 1920, or 1989.

Or 1889.

Another author suggests that the use of the phrase "one off instance" proves it was written after 1970. 

The first recorded use of the term "one off" that's been found so far was in 1903, and he thinks it takes 70 years for humans to go from one off to "one off instance". 

But I have to ask: don't you have to take into consideration that there are two different worlds we're talking about - the technical world and the non-technical world? 

Once it passes into the non-technical world, the process of linguistic development starts all over. It doesn't start when it's first used in the technical world since it's a parallel world and completely separate. Technical people don't write non-technical and creative works for the masses. They don't come up with creative phrasing unless it's someone who straddles both worlds and, even then, he will only write it in his own personal memoirs if anything, like a cotton merchant writing a diary. 

So when does the term "one-off" first make it into the non-technical literature? 

I'll check google books to see.

[Maysonfre]

Google Books has no examples of "one off" in a non-technical book that predates "one off instance". That means humans went from one off to one off instance almost instantaneously.

If they did that in the 1970s, then they would have done that in the 1880s.

One-off is documented in print in 1903 and every dictionary says words can be in use verbally for 50 years before they make it into print. And there's evidence that "one off" existed in the 1860s. See the original, The Diary of Jack the Ripper.

[abnormal]

I heard said they found the Manchester Murder from the diary but the diary says it happened after James Maybrick moves into Battlecrease House. The Florence Maybrick book says he took the lease on the house on February first andthe murder was on February 12, 1888. How could he have that much time after signing the lease to move in and then go to Bolton to commit the crime?

[blackjack]

Oct 25, 2018 5:44:32 GMT abnormal said:

I heard said they found the Manchester Murder from the diary but the diary says it happened after James Maybrick moves into Battlecrease House. The Florence Maybrick book says he took the lease on the house on February first andthe murder was on February 12, 1888. How could he have that much time after signing the lease to move in and then go to Bolton to commit the crime?

The day you "take out a lease" is not the day you sign. It's the day that the lease begins. That's the day that you can move in. So he moved in on Feb 1. He had plenty of time to go to Bolton and commit the crime. 

[abnormal]

OK. That makes sense. I’ll post some of the local news clippings that have more details than the Manchester papers.

[Abbnormal]

[Abbnormal]

[blackjack]

Can we have the dates and journals for the articles?

So Betsy Dyson's husband was out of work so she had to work as a charwoman and cleaner. Income was an issue.

The doctor said the death was not of natural causes.

Although we now know he reported the death, we still don't know definitely if the husband was there when she died. It was a Sunday at 11 at night. And he said he didn't think she was any sicker than usual.

Cons will be happy to hear that Betsy was sick. She told her sister a little over a week earlier she was sick but appeared well. A doctor said he was treating her for rheumatism two weeks earlier for four or five days. Witnesses said she had bouts. She received cough syrup the day before her death and took one dose. She was vomiting that day after breakfast.


Coroner asked for police to investigate pharmacies and herbalists to see if they gave her anything that might be fatal.

Only one dose of cough syrup from a doctor was given to her and the husband gave them the bottle.

So how did she die? Is it still poison? Where did it come from? Flypaper?


Remember we're looking for a "squeezing" death that might not show up if it was a sleeper hold. We're not looking for a classic "Ripper" murder but anything that would be associated with the Diary and a Lancashire cotton merchant. Bolton is a cotton mill town in Greater Manchester and Betsy worked in a cotton mill before getting married.

[blackjack]

All the internal organs were sound except the stomach and upper part of the intestine. The stomach had a few patches of deep congestion with ecchymosis (bleeding like a hemotoma) or discoloration. 

Congestion of the Stomach is perfectly consistent with death by axphixiation.

[Abbnormal]

Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser Friday February 24, 1888

Bolton Cronicle Tuesday February 21, 1888

I’ll get her death certificate.